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governor romney does visiting here? all because mitt romney was in a serious order taken it seriously? that he was the butt of more jokes. david brennan is on the phone right now. thanks for joining. >> thank you. neil: you have seen the studies. remember, they broke down the juxtaposition of jokes you and it was something like 10 to one, making fun of romney. >> i think first of all you have to know that the comedian's lean left anyway. always. i mean, they are basically -- even though they try to balance that, they are going to make fun of the other guy who is running against a democrat. but in spite of that, it doesn't matter. you know, look at george w. bush. talk about a walking talking joke. the second time that he ran -- were you kidding me? all he had to do was repeat what he said and people were screaming. neil: and he got reelected. >> and he got reelected i will say that that is right. i do think it was overly disproportionate and part of my thinking is that everything that mitt romney would do or say became
governor romney does visiting here? all because mitt romney was in a serious order taken it seriously? that he was the butt of more jokes. david brennan is on the phone right now. thanks for joining. >> thank you. neil: you have seen the studies. remember, they broke down the juxtaposition of jokes you and it was something like 10 to one, making fun of romney. >> i think first of all you have to know that the comedian's lean left anyway. always. i mean, they are basically -- even...
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i think that obama if he were smart, would utilize mitt romney, mitt romney really knows could. i think that -- knows business, and i think that obama has a certain respect. obama is not a businessman. he is an idea log. i think by him doing something to reach out to mitt romney other than a turkey chili lunch, whatever. neil: they had cold cuts. >> and cold cuts. >> i'm thinking like salmon or something elegant, are you going to eat that. >> yeah, look at my office that you do not get, and how about a coil cut. neil: did you see that? like, looky there what do you think of the color scheme, not up to you. >> track records speak for themselves, mitt romney has a track record of great things. neil: look at, that. >> in oval offers. >> romney just within inches of the desk. >> when i worked for giuliani, romney was running, he has been running for a long time. neil: do you think he runs again. >> i do not. neil: who do the think? >> 2016 rubio, and chris christie, a lot of people that a lot of big donors begged to run. neil: tom you are runni? >> not yet. >> talk to me. >> when he
i think that obama if he were smart, would utilize mitt romney, mitt romney really knows could. i think that -- knows business, and i think that obama has a certain respect. obama is not a businessman. he is an idea log. i think by him doing something to reach out to mitt romney other than a turkey chili lunch, whatever. neil: they had cold cuts. >> and cold cuts. >> i'm thinking like salmon or something elegant, are you going to eat that. >> yeah, look at my office that you...
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he came closes to any republican to dislodging mitt romney as presidential nominee here, had all of 28-cents in his campaign war shift. do you find any of this troubling? >> i do. for republicans to go out and concede on the revenue side. does washington need more revenue? yeah it does, looking at overall percentage of money of revenues that come in to federal government, than what has been average since world war ii, we're below that the argument should be, yeah, we need more revenue, but the question is, how do republicans historically, how do we argue, for more revenue? growth. we need more growth, if we have more growth, highest revenues we had in history of the -- since world war ii was 21 or 22% of gdp, what happened? tech boom, huge capital gains and start ups, and that is how we got revenue, it was not by raising taxes that is an argument we have with principle made and have been correct in making it. to now say, well, you know, president won and we have to concede that point. i'm not saying there can't be tax reform. but that should be an ending point not a starting point. nei
he came closes to any republican to dislodging mitt romney as presidential nominee here, had all of 28-cents in his campaign war shift. do you find any of this troubling? >> i do. for republicans to go out and concede on the revenue side. does washington need more revenue? yeah it does, looking at overall percentage of money of revenues that come in to federal government, than what has been average since world war ii, we're below that the argument should be, yeah, we need more revenue,...
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. >> romney lost the state. the unemployment rate in ohio has gone down was due to policies. >> sorry about these governors. they have made there stay solvent. but look. -- [talking over each other] >> if i may. my heart is filled with excitement. i am so excited as i hear you tell me how good things are at the state level. there are governors out there. there are state legislatures, 26 of them controlled by republicans. i am not suggesting that the republican party has disappeared i am suggesting that national leaders to deal with the white house in a campaign structure@ that is still campaigning relentlessly after winning a presidential election -- >> the speaker has not buckled. he said la land. lou: did he say lolland all by himself? >> this is serious. here is what we can do. here is what we want to do. take the politics out of it. they'd be partisan is this right now. a higher probability they can come to a deal or look like heroes. if they try to make this work there will be in very serious trouble for so
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not because they loved obama but they were so fearful of romney and republicans. >> i think it is a case of actions speaking louder than words. you can say to people we like you and we are inclusive but if you don't have representatives there that look like me or have been in my shoes i am not going to believe it. doesn't matter if you are a person of color, if you're a woman or a person of a certain economic background you need that representation and you need those people to say i am a representative -- didn't have enough of those -- >> at some point it becomes pandering if you are just rolling out one black or hispanic -- [talking over each other] charles: you have to start the republicans started two weeks ago, got to the grass roots. you can't just show up. you have to be prepared. i don't think a blanket message is going to work. you have to go to these communities and take a lot of heat, a lot of heat. stuart: if whatever community you are talking about, and they think at the moment if my representative doesn't look like me, you don't represent me, you don't represent my interests
not because they loved obama but they were so fearful of romney and republicans. >> i think it is a case of actions speaking louder than words. you can say to people we like you and we are inclusive but if you don't have representatives there that look like me or have been in my shoes i am not going to believe it. doesn't matter if you are a person of color, if you're a woman or a person of a certain economic background you need that representation and you need those people to say i am a...
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when governor romney said that, pointed that out to president obama in the debate, he was -- we had horses and bayonets, too. he seemed to make light of that. how important is it can you give us a sense of the impact? >> i think the president's comment is showing his inexperience in military matters. in this particular case we are going down to 220 ships. to put that number in perspective, i had 2505 ships under my command in the pacific fleet's. 20 percent of those 220 ships will be the literal combat ships which basically have no offensive or defensive capability. we are going to be challenged where we show weakness. and let me give you an example. just today china announced effective january 1 they have authorized their paramilitary naval forces and their police to stop all vessels in the south china sea that they consider to be there illegally if they have not requested permission. this must be rejected in the most strongest terms. this hits at the core capability of international maritime law, freedom of transit, freedom of navigation rights. lou: we have not heard from the state depa
when governor romney said that, pointed that out to president obama in the debate, he was -- we had horses and bayonets, too. he seemed to make light of that. how important is it can you give us a sense of the impact? >> i think the president's comment is showing his inexperience in military matters. in this particular case we are going down to 220 ships. to put that number in perspective, i had 2505 ships under my command in the pacific fleet's. 20 percent of those 220 ships will be the...
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. >> that was romney's plan. lower tax rates, cut some deductions and what are you doing. >> bowles simpson, a democrat. he did the deal with the newt gingrich and bill clinton. you c . stuart: stop smiling. >> every democrat sitting right% there has said the same thing. remember bill clinton. he raised tax rates and it sent off a boom. you don't agree with that? >> i do agree with it, but he also reformed welfare. he was also willing to rein in modestly entitlements and do things on a comprehensive basis, it worked and paid huge dividends. stuart: i've got 30 seconds. >> yes. stuart: are we going to get a fiscal cliff avoid dan deal? >> we may get some form of a deal. we are not going to get a real deal. i think the economy is going to be hurt and i think both sides, especially the president deserve blame. stuart: who will get the blame? >> the republicans clearly are going to get the blame and hurting themselves. stuart: but we may go into a much slower economy and hurts the president. >> bad news for the presi
. >> that was romney's plan. lower tax rates, cut some deductions and what are you doing. >> bowles simpson, a democrat. he did the deal with the newt gingrich and bill clinton. you c . stuart: stop smiling. >> every democrat sitting right% there has said the same thing. remember bill clinton. he raised tax rates and it sent off a boom. you don't agree with that? >> i do agree with it, but he also reformed welfare. he was also willing to rein in modestly entitlements and...
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mention the only republican he is scheduled to meet with this week is former presidential candidate mitt romney. lunch at the white house. back on the hill, congressional democrats did not put any spending cuts on the table, but senate majority leader harry reid did embrace reublicans who have turned against one of the party's most influential forces. >> one obstacle standing beyond congress and compromise, grover norquist. bullying lawmakers willing to put their oath of office and promised to serve constituents ahead of the pledge to lead this antax sell it. his brand of ideological extremism has been bad for congress and work for -- worse for the country. distancing themselves this week. i appreciate that very much. lou: with the majority leader's things we turn now to the man at the center of mr. reed's spewing of vitriol, of variable stream. we are joined by grover norquist , president of americans for tax reform. i have to ask you. how does it feel to be a bully of lawmakers? i like this part especially, anti-tax sell at. the logical extremists. to find yourself is really being pointed tha
mention the only republican he is scheduled to meet with this week is former presidential candidate mitt romney. lunch at the white house. back on the hill, congressional democrats did not put any spending cuts on the table, but senate majority leader harry reid did embrace reublicans who have turned against one of the party's most influential forces. >> one obstacle standing beyond congress and compromise, grover norquist. bullying lawmakers willing to put their oath of office and...
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governor romney has served on the board twice before. dennis: no word whether his bank account makes him less qualified of a candidate on that one. microsoft hoping to take a bite out of apple's ipad business. the high price could be more than some customers can swallow. shiiani joshi joins us now with a fabulous new haircut. shibani: you didn't notice last week, apparently. some backlash going on against microsoft today. you would think the company would price its new tablet line a little more aggressively considering it will have to compete with apple and its ipad. the company revealing a few months after the initial appearance of the surface. they will come with a pretty hefty price tag associated with them. it is a 64 gigabyte model with a price tag at $899. the pro which is a 128 gigabyte model is $999. the 64 gigabyte ipod will run you $829 or $70 less than what microsoft is charging you. you can also bite and ipod mini for $329. it apparently is not trying to compete on price. they are focusing on the pretty interesting features t
governor romney has served on the board twice before. dennis: no word whether his bank account makes him less qualified of a candidate on that one. microsoft hoping to take a bite out of apple's ipad business. the high price could be more than some customers can swallow. shiiani joshi joins us now with a fabulous new haircut. shibani: you didn't notice last week, apparently. some backlash going on against microsoft today. you would think the company would price its new tablet line a little more...
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i understand mitt romney is coming to the white house for that lunch. i don't know, what is everybody expect to come from that? >> the president said the president wanted to talk to governor romney about ideas to make it more efficient. praising the management of the 2002 olympics, said he did a good job there. governor romney is one that raised the ideas happen deductions for tax for people to come up with as far as tax reform, come up with more tax revenue. melissa: thank you so much for your input, peter barnes. lori: what is on the menu? got to give a shout out. there is another battle brewing over the fiscal cliff, instead congress and the white house, this one happening on twitter. melissa: dennis kneale is covering the story with the latest. i love this one. >> the obama administration renowned for the use of social networks but this time maybe it outdid itself. the president urging americans to tweet their support for using the hash tag mo farah, as in my $2000, raised taxes on somebody else. now my2k has become a way to trash obama and cheering
i understand mitt romney is coming to the white house for that lunch. i don't know, what is everybody expect to come from that? >> the president said the president wanted to talk to governor romney about ideas to make it more efficient. praising the management of the 2002 olympics, said he did a good job there. governor romney is one that raised the ideas happen deductions for tax for people to come up with as far as tax reform, come up with more tax revenue. melissa: thank you so much...
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no press coverage at all, the president says he wants romney's input on the fiscal cliff. some think he might propose a republican compromise of sorts. we shall see. cheryl: it is time for your "west coast minute." an update to a story we brought you last week. the union walkout shut down most of los angeles and long beach ports yesterday. they handle 40% of the nations import trade. they handle the paperwork for the incoming and outgoing vessels, and job workers refused to cross picket lines in a sign of solidarity. if a deal in fiscal cliff is not reached, one in three jobless californians or 4000 people total could lose $450 per week in federal employment benefits that could be discontinued. also due to the high unemployment, debt and crime levels, california has been deemed the worst run state in the nation by 24/7 wall street, a financial news and opinion website. but the news is better in oregon, up north, medford oregon has been named the best housing market in the country. chosen based on data from case-shiller, economic and price data. santa fe, new mexico, the ne
no press coverage at all, the president says he wants romney's input on the fiscal cliff. some think he might propose a republican compromise of sorts. we shall see. cheryl: it is time for your "west coast minute." an update to a story we brought you last week. the union walkout shut down most of los angeles and long beach ports yesterday. they handle 40% of the nations import trade. they handle the paperwork for the incoming and outgoing vessels, and job workers refused to cross...
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>> first of all, if you remember well, stuart, mitt romney and the republicans beat up on president obama for the last three years for cutting medicare at $716 billion. he has already showed he is willing to take a big bite out of a major entitlement program. stuart: hold on a second. i do remember it. that is not reform. that is not reforming the structure of entitlement programs. that is the issue. >> i think the focus has been on medicare. the attention now needs to be on medicare inside the aca. there were large structural reforms in the way healthcare was playing out. in fact, last year, we had a slower rate of growth and health care spending that we have had in quite a time. whether president has proposed is part of the current negotiations is another $300 billion cut in medicare. stuart: that is a cut. you do understand, that what we really -- >> stuart, that just is not true. we have not seen them play out. certainly, we will have to be coming back every year. usually, through a committee process where people vote at the end of the day. the republicans decided to take another cour
>> first of all, if you remember well, stuart, mitt romney and the republicans beat up on president obama for the last three years for cutting medicare at $716 billion. he has already showed he is willing to take a big bite out of a major entitlement program. stuart: hold on a second. i do remember it. that is not reform. that is not reforming the structure of entitlement programs. that is the issue. >> i think the focus has been on medicare. the attention now needs to be on...
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eliminate all the deductions for charitable and home mortgage interest because you look at people like mitt romney and others don't pay 39%. look at warren buffett, he pays 15% for capital gains tax and there's no reason everybody in america shouldn't be able to pay the same rate that the rich like warren buffett do. the rich found out how to game the system. they take capital gains and not regular income. dennis: and a flat tax in all of that. thank you for being with us. have a good day. cheryl: always entertaining. despite the debate over the fiscal cliff and other problems facing us, the dow under 16 points right now. ways to play coming up. dennis: the netflix disney movie deal, we will tell you why netflix shareholders might want to turn some down. cheryl: ebay's plan to deliver the items that you really have to have now as in within the hour. dennis: and let's take a look at metal. i've been a superintendent for 30 some years at many diffent park service units across the united states. the only time i' ever had a break is when i was on maternity leave. i have retired from doing this one thi
eliminate all the deductions for charitable and home mortgage interest because you look at people like mitt romney and others don't pay 39%. look at warren buffett, he pays 15% for capital gains tax and there's no reason everybody in america shouldn't be able to pay the same rate that the rich like warren buffett do. the rich found out how to game the system. they take capital gains and not regular income. dennis: and a flat tax in all of that. thank you for being with us. have a good day....
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this self-proclaimed romney supporter was paid $5000 by someone on ebay to get the romney-ryan logo tattooed on his face. yikes. after insisting that hewould never regret it. he now wants to get it removed, claiming that mitt romney was a sore loser after the election. who do you guys think the sore losers? >> i have one line for this, you cannot fix stupid. [laughter] this guy is an idiot. why would you have a tattoo like that? melissa: provided you have political slogan on your face? >> consider the source. if one of his behaviors is flip-flopping -- melissa: ep $5000. >> i think it is ludicrous. the guy, i gave him back the money that he got off of ebay. he didn't put those into the bargain. secondly, i think you ought to have to pay for it. my mother always told me that you made your bed and you have to lie in it. >> that is a heck of a bed to make. melissa: all right, if you you want to know the secret to happy marriage? apparently you have to make sure that the husband gets along with the in-laws. if the husband feels close to the mosque, the chance of divorce is 20% lower than average
this self-proclaimed romney supporter was paid $5000 by someone on ebay to get the romney-ryan logo tattooed on his face. yikes. after insisting that hewould never regret it. he now wants to get it removed, claiming that mitt romney was a sore loser after the election. who do you guys think the sore losers? >> i have one line for this, you cannot fix stupid. [laughter] this guy is an idiot. why would you have a tattoo like that? melissa: provided you have political slogan on your face?...
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. >> ed connor this year, worked with mitt romney, on with us, author of "unintended consequences," and you say if you're going to raise taxes, you have to get something back which is what? >> make any tax increase, rolling back bush tax cuts, for example, conditional upon reaching agreement that stop the debt growing as a percent of gdp. they can't reach the agreement by the end of the year so as a part of this, agree to retroactively roll back bush tax cuts if they reach agreements. >> the democrats thought they did enough deficit cutting. >> not even close. >> right. >> 0%, you need $900 billion of tax increases or spending cuts to stop debt growing as a percent of gdp. on the $900 billion you need, you need more than that. the president, who wants to support his spending, needs enormous tax increases, and public opinion says he can blame tax increases on republicans if he's over the cliff so his threat to go over the cliff, i think, is very credible, and i think the republicans are in a very procare yows negotiating position because if they are blamed for this, they'll loss the hous
. >> ed connor this year, worked with mitt romney, on with us, author of "unintended consequences," and you say if you're going to raise taxes, you have to get something back which is what? >> make any tax increase, rolling back bush tax cuts, for example, conditional upon reaching agreement that stop the debt growing as a percent of gdp. they can't reach the agreement by the end of the year so as a part of this, agree to retroactively roll back bush tax cuts if they reach...
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have an agreement among all parties, congressional republicans as well as barack obama and if mitt romney had become president the same thing, and the last-- absolutely. stuart: we're going to unleash borrowing? >> i think what we need-- >> take off that ceiling and allow the the president to spend what he wants and therefore, borrow. >> let's talk about your friend reagan, i think 18 times he raised the debt ceiling, so, nobody held him hostage the full faith and credit. stuart: if we do that now, no limit, there's no debt ceiling at all, and president obama could just, just borrow it. no one from congress, but borrow it, what happens. >> would i love to see some responsibility on behalf of congressional leaders. stuart: you don't think we'd get a debt crisis. >> been threatening bond vigilantes and things in the past five years, i haven't seen it yet. stuart: unfortunately we're out of time, but i love that smile. >> thank you, i love being on with you, despite the fact, talking-- the highlight of my day knowing i was going to be with you. stuart: and i do not believe you. >> it's 100%
have an agreement among all parties, congressional republicans as well as barack obama and if mitt romney had become president the same thing, and the last-- absolutely. stuart: we're going to unleash borrowing? >> i think what we need-- >> take off that ceiling and allow the the president to spend what he wants and therefore, borrow. >> let's talk about your friend reagan, i think 18 times he raised the debt ceiling, so, nobody held him hostage the full faith and credit....
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. >> melissa, what he is talking about is the fact that warren buffett, mitt romney, other people, derive most of their income from capital gains which are taxed at a 15% rate. that is not a loophole. that is a statutory intent of the tax code. and what you have then is the incredible amassing of wealth. liz: good. change that, you get $5 billion. change that, do that, let's do it and take it off the table. do this. you get $5 billion. >> i would love it. liz: how will that help you? >> washington is not, has not made it happen. washington has not been able to do it. liz: do you know the "buffett rule" would reduce the 10-year deficit under president obama's budget by .7 of 1%? you're talking about is .7 of 1%. this argument is about .7 of 1%. why do we keep having this conversation instead after conversation about controlling spending, about really closing this gap or doing something else to really close this gap? i mean i just wonder why this conversation keeps coming to the fore instead of one that would solve the problem? to me it is about pitting people in this country against each o
. >> melissa, what he is talking about is the fact that warren buffett, mitt romney, other people, derive most of their income from capital gains which are taxed at a 15% rate. that is not a loophole. that is a statutory intent of the tax code. and what you have then is the incredible amassing of wealth. liz: good. change that, you get $5 billion. change that, do that, let's do it and take it off the table. do this. you get $5 billion. >> i would love it. liz: how will that help...
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mitt romney missed out on it during the presidential campaign. and it was missed out on this time around. a lot of conservatives are really hoping that he was going to dig his heels in on this issue and but for the proposal that was all right and ask and we could count on it and maybe do some of the pr and marketing to back that up so we can swing public opinion. >> except clearly that is not happening. >> let's move forward. hindsight. okay. mistakes were made. now what to do? a tour republican party sees this is a huge political game, why don't they do something about it? >> the republican party is going to get blamed. if you look at all of the polling, the pure research, everyone is saying this is the republicans' fault. i think at this point they need, he needed to do what he did. that's all he could do. he needed to put something for it. lou: we need to -- makes it sound as though, making it sound as if there is nothing the republicans can do, that it is now a matter that is, by default, done. >> the republicans are engaged command a greek,
mitt romney missed out on it during the presidential campaign. and it was missed out on this time around. a lot of conservatives are really hoping that he was going to dig his heels in on this issue and but for the proposal that was all right and ask and we could count on it and maybe do some of the pr and marketing to back that up so we can swing public opinion. >> except clearly that is not happening. >> let's move forward. hindsight. okay. mistakes were made. now what to do? a...
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romney is gone, but he is still in the background. we have mcconnell and boehner. who is the quarterback, mr. president? gerri: what do you make of that analogy? >> well, that is a football analogy. we'll do that from time to time, but the reality is the speaker of the house is the speaker. the house is the majority republican, and if he is going to advance that way, that is probably in order. senator mcconnell is involved, i'm sure talking with boehner about these issues. he always has been, but you have to have the spokesman, somebody to talk to. the president is absent up here, and i hope he will come to the table. i hope we can avoid it, but a lot of it is going to ultimately be on the president's watch. gerri: i have to tell you, there are other people mia. most of the house is gone on vacation. the senate is spending all this time figuring a helmet will be able to watch lincoln and have popcorn. this is what harry reid is that the last couple of days doing. why can't we get people in the same room and try to get this thing resolved instead of just talking pas
romney is gone, but he is still in the background. we have mcconnell and boehner. who is the quarterback, mr. president? gerri: what do you make of that analogy? >> well, that is a football analogy. we'll do that from time to time, but the reality is the speaker of the house is the speaker. the house is the majority republican, and if he is going to advance that way, that is probably in order. senator mcconnell is involved, i'm sure talking with boehner about these issues. he always has...
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i believe that if governor romney talk about fiscal issues with real solutions and not had the social issues cloud the tenets of the campaign would of been very different and it is not always allow corley favorable but we are $16 trillion in debt and need real reform or for our country goes bankrupt. >> i agree with you on the dependency picture because the objective of the democrats over many decades certainly the current democratic party is to expand government as far as fast as possible, the object of of that is to expand dependency on government as fast as possible and the ultimate objective of that is to create permanent democrat voting majority. if they can get to the kids and lock them into dependency early then they have got them for life. >> absolutely. the college student loans. they're trying to make it easier and expansion and kids don't understand that their money has to come from somewhere. as one of my friends but i got my free obama money to go to school. it makes me sick because they don't understand it somebody has to pay for. kids overwhelmingly support free contrac
i believe that if governor romney talk about fiscal issues with real solutions and not had the social issues cloud the tenets of the campaign would of been very different and it is not always allow corley favorable but we are $16 trillion in debt and need real reform or for our country goes bankrupt. >> i agree with you on the dependency picture because the objective of the democrats over many decades certainly the current democratic party is to expand government as far as fast as...
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trillion deal over ten years would do more for job growth, quite honestly, for then anything governor romney or president obama talked about during the campaign. connell: you are really the leader of this. the gang of six and morphed into a bigger group. do you feel as involved now or are you somehow kind of saying to yourself, boy, i do not have a say at all anymore. >> is it that obvious on my face? it is pretty darn frustrating. i have spent two and a half years. there is a large overwhelming majority ready to do their part. i have been in a lot of negotiations over my business career. too many cooks in the kitchen making this. i can tell you this much, there is an awful lot of us who are willing to vote and give ideas to an idea that is big and broad. connell: revenue. we heard from the speaker a moment ago. it did not sound very encouraging. on revenue, you guys were where, just in terms of numbers on revenue? >> well, connell, here is where you listen with eyes glazed over, you assume that the top rates would go up and we would be able to do tax reform to come back down. we started wit
trillion deal over ten years would do more for job growth, quite honestly, for then anything governor romney or president obama talked about during the campaign. connell: you are really the leader of this. the gang of six and morphed into a bigger group. do you feel as involved now or are you somehow kind of saying to yourself, boy, i do not have a say at all anymore. >> is it that obvious on my face? it is pretty darn frustrating. i have spent two and a half years. there is a large...